It's time for some perspective on Liverpool's first defeat

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13Sep

It’s time for some perspective on Liverpool’s first defeat

by Iain Macintosh

Do you remember Liverpool in the final, tortured days of the Roy Hodgson reign? The vacant-eyed shuffling of those two robotic banks of four, the wet thump of wellied balls into channels, the audible sound of Fernando Torres dying inside? Nine months on and it seems that the first casualty of Kenny Dalglish’s reign has been perspective. This loosened grip on reality has affected the vocal fringe of fans who expected a title challenge as profoundly as it has the broadsheet journalists who raced to put the boot in this week after a single defeat.

On Monday, The Independent gravely announced that Liverpool’s 0-1 reverse at Stoke on Saturday was Dalglish’s “eighth loss in 28 matches.”

Fair enough, but as Paul Tomkins points out on his website, the Liverpool manager has won 14 of the others, which gives him a perfectly acceptable win ratio of 50 percent.

The Guardian took a rather more alarming line, with their reporter suggesting that Dalglish’s annoyance with last weekend’s officials might mean that, “for the second time in two decades, the task of managing Liverpool is proving too great a responsibility.” A perfectly logical conclusion, provided that you can equate losing to Stoke with the burden of carrying a grief-stricken city upon your back for 18 months while desperately trying not to be the man who brings 20 years of runaway success to an end.

Dalglish was unwise to question the standard of refereeing in Liverpool’s games and there will certainly have been wry smiles at The Emirates at his claim that his team have suffered bad decisions in every game. Bad decisions happen in football, but they happen to everyone and every team in England could provide a catalogue of contention to rival the one claimed by Dalglish. Instead of moaning at the officials, he would be better served moaning at his players. According to Opta, Liverpool had 24 chances to Stoke’s three, completed more than three times as many passes and enjoyed a whopping 72.7 percent of the possession. If he’s looking for scapegoats, he’ll find them in his own dressing room.

But there really shouldn’t be any need for scapegoats, should there? For starters, Stoke are hardly minnows, especially at the Britannia Stadium. Last season, only five teams won more home games than the Potters. Secondly, the concept of a team playing well and losing is hardly a novel one. As with those bad decisions, these things happen in football.

The truth, unpalatable as it was to the more excitable Liverpool supporters when it was suggested in the summer, is that the damage caused by the previous owners was never going to be swept away in two transfer windows. Liverpool are still only a indistinct blob in the wing mirror of the Manchester clubs. They have spent heavily, albeit with money deposited at the bank in January amid howls of laughter, but change will not be swift and they will go on to lose more games this season.

Dalglish’s primary objective upon his return was not to win the Premier League, it was to secure the right to play in it again this season. That’s how bad it was under Hodgson. By reinvigorating the club so quickly, perhaps he has raised expectations too soon. His target this season is to qualify for the Champions League and one defeat in four games is not yet enough to suggest that he’s going to fall short. Last season, Arsenal lost eight of them and finished fouth. The season before that, Tottenham took the final Champions League place after losing 10.

Liverpool are playing patient, intelligent football, they’re at the right end of the table and they’re still a decent bet for that Champions League place. Nine months on from the gloom of the Hodgson era, that should be more than enough for fans and journalists alike.

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Towson Tom

If Caragher is left 1 on 1 and is last man then a penalty will ensue
David Shaw

Well said as usual Iain.

On exactly the same date last year, Barcelona lost 2-0 at home to newly promoted Hercules.

Needless to say. “Shit happens”.

Some of the young Football Manager pro’s wont be happy unless we win all 38 games.
http://ezanee.tumblr.com ezanee

If only everybody else could take the long view. Good article. We did everything but score.
Joe

I think that Kenny knows exactly that the blame for the Stoke defeat lies with his players not taking their chances. But there is no way that he will come out in public and say that – it is just a case of the King deflecting blame. He will know that come next Sunday, we are going to have to take our chances when they come, or we will be heading home with the same result!
Robert Phillips

albeit we are not consistent but i remember last season how a broken team demolished the Manchester teams at Anfield so let’s not go comparing us to blobs on any mirrors and sorts. these bad decisions will haunt the Manchester teams in the CL and lets see how they will like it. they should not happen as it cost teams points. had Carrolls goal been allowed against Sunderland, we would have been taling a diffirent tune and they seem to be happening too frequently agaist LFC. but, to be fair, we did have a lot of chances and KK gotta look at dropping Carra. i’m sorry, he is finished and like Bellamy, at their age should be happy with a few minutes on the field albeit that they are good players. KK gotta play both Suarez and Carrol because it is useless having width and crosses coming in with no target to aim at. sorry for Adam or Lucas but one will have to wait out when Garrard comes back. we may not win the league but let see MANURE fans complainif LFC get’s a penalty at old Trafford with 5 minutes to go with the scores level. with all the technology, BAD DECSIONS whould not be happening.
Victoria

Thank you so much for this post. Highlights the overwhelmingly unrealistic expectations from certain fans and the fact that most have already forgotten about the abysmal state we were in both internally and externally as a club last season.
http://st1jere.blogspot.com Sam Wanjere

Perspective is a must for all Kop nationals. We haven’t become title contenders merely after spending, but it doesn’t (and shouldn’t) mean we can’t contend.

About Stoke and other “losses”, it’s really how other teams on the receiving end of our wins feel. No one team ever has the prerogative and monopoly of winning. There’s no divine right to win – and conversely, no team loves losing. It’s a competition and none wants to be bested.

When people see Stoke as three points, it’s outright disrespect. That team is trying to survive in the monied PL and will do all it takes to stay there. Their style is uniquely theirs, just like we associate Tiki Taka with Barcelona. It’s up to us to try and win and the amount of chances we had, with a little more luck, would have given us three.

I will choose to always look forward to the next game. There’s overtalk of a day at a time, but is there any other way to live life?
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Mature words Victoria.
http://st1jere.blogspot.com Sam Wanjere

And to the King’s credit, it’s also a massive difference in his management style (and that of Rafa) with his predecessor. We are certainly on the up.
Shaun Loh

Iain,

you have no business writing for The New Paper, home of knee jerk reactions and inane observations. You are too good for them.

“Dalglish was unwise to question the standard of refereeing in Liverpool’s games…”

Perhaps Kenny’s “attack” is a classier version of Ferguson’s mind games. Just a thought
Horia

couldn’t say it better
Fuwee

Agree!!! But urgently than ever, passenger Henderson must the1st be left out n used at last minutes till he is ready, We have been starting with TEN players all this season. We looked good when Henderson was dropped at the 67thmin against Stoke but it was just too late to change the outcome. Sebestian Coates to start coming in for Carra, Henderson thrown in when game is secured.He is a long way from ready.Anyone on the bench can do what the passenger can if not better ( back passes). 90% of his game shows the stay out of trouble route he takes. Minus Henderson, we have ELEVEN playerrs on the pitch. Kenny has to be brave to drop the other mistake he made. maybe not mistake but surely not material for the current or we’ll keep dropping points. One mistake can always lead to another,
Fuwee

True Sam… Lets drop Henderson for not being present but mere passenger and we will match next opponent with ELEVEN against ELEVEN. We look capable when had ELEVEN on the pitch against Stoke but just too little time left to change the outcome.
http://st1jere.blogspot.com Sam Wanjere

Some sensible words there but wouldn’t really call him a passenger. I think our policy should mirror Shankly’s, where you get dropped if you underperform. It creates a hunger to prove oneself. For the next few games though, I’d like to see Hendo as a sub and Carra on the bench too.
Iain Macintosh

I bet you, right here and right now, that the lowest Manchester club still finishes 15 points ahead of Liverpool. A fiver.

And you lot are all witnesses.

I don’t mean the blob comment with any disrespect, just realism. There’s a lot of work to do if LFC are going to catch up on the front-runners. Personally, I think they will. But not yet. Fourth would be a fine achievement this season.
Macintosh

I like Henderson! He does all the simple things very well, keeps recycling possession, tucks in to support the midfield and he’s got a lovely pass on him. Give the lad time to settle. I still think £16m was a lot, but there’s not much wrong with him.
The Force

I think the haters and newbs are pleased and unfortunately alot of them are reporters who support man united. etc. But its great that Werner has backed dalglish because nothing irritates people more than club unity. Alot of the people hitting on KK are folks (read opposing fans) who are afraid of the revlution happening at Anfield. Since when has city become a threat? Becuase they spend a million bucks? Thats what equates to success? what have they won in 40 years? and yet liverpool are a blob and city are real contenders? thats more of the newb stuff from people who have been watching the epl for only the past 20 years. they dont realise how huge LFC was and can be again.
LFC

I think brits in general have become too third world like in their thought processes. Let me explain. in the EPL its money money money and more money. What is this obssesion with it? I mean arrogance with a begging bowl in hand is ridiculous. Everything in the EPL is borrowed and yet when a great man tries to build a british team he is scorned? no wonder you chumps lost an empire. i cant beleive how folks rate city and chelsea (teams who havent done jack in the last 40 years) higher than LFC. Sure there maybe a new order but liverpool are the most storied club in english football.
Iain Macintosh

Contrary to accepted historical fact, the British Empire wasn’t lost when some football teams spent money on some players. It was bankrupted while they stood alone against Nazi Germany, exchanging Pacific naval bases for crap ships with….God, I can’t recall now. It was some kind of Lend-Lease deal. Oooh, who was it with?

Folks rate City and Chelsea higher than Liverpool right now because they are higher than Liverpool right now and they’ll probably stay that way. I like stories, God, it’s my stock in trade, but they’re not quite as useful as away wins when it comes to building a title challenge.
Iain Macintosh

City became a threat, not since they spent a million bucks, but since they started winning games with impunity. The fact that they’ve not won much in 40 years (though one FA Cup to no FA Cups does represent a better past five years) is irrelevant in a discussion of their title chances. I’m sure Liverpool can be huge again, but they’re not going to win the title this season. Or maybe even next season. That’s the point, see?
LFC

Winning with impunity hahah…since when? Two games ago. Nice one.
LFC

Fair enough
LFC

Here’s another rant:) Why do football fans accept so much crap and low standards when it comes to the way a game is called? WHY? Why is the man in the middle given so much autonomy? So that FIFA can “control” (read fix) games? I think in this day and age with so much tech available fans started demanding more value for their hard earned money when it comes to refs. Refs are human and 90 percent of all their calls are biased in some way whether they mean to or not. A liverpool hating ref will always give decisions against them. FACT. So instead of all the time spent arguing with a ref after a bad call, why not spend that time better immediately reviewing the call with third party tech. And stuff FIFAs old and tired line about the so called rhythm of the game being affected. What screws up a game is a bad call or when the ref erroneously reduces a team to 10 men and makes a mockery of the whole game by making it a non-contest. What we need is two additional refs on either side of the goal and camera technology. The only sticking point I can see apart from the cost of implementation is which calls go up to the camera and which dont, but with three or four refs im sure that can be ironed out quickly. Seriously, its time refs stopped winning or losing games for teams. Everyone will much happier. except maybe Fifa when scotland qualifies for a world cup instead of france or spain.
Iain Macintosh

Well, four games ago, to be strictly accurate. Are you suggesting that City aren’t a threat to Liverpool?
Iain Macintosh

I like you, I like your spirit, but I think you’re a little bit paranoid. Liverpool hating refs? FIFA fixing games through autonomous refs? I don’t buy it, not for a moment.
LFC

I like you too, but that’s beside the point. Seriously the time has come for technology to be implemented in football.
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